KENNY WHITE
Interview by Joyce Peters
June 2002
I caught up with Kenny White in New York
City recently to discuss his record, "Uninvited Guest"
and his recurring dreams.
JP: Describe your process of writing for commercials
versus for your own record.
KW: You get paid for trying [grins]. You spend one day creating
a song versus. 6 months on a demo record only to hear, "This
won't play on radio" or "You're too diverse. I don't
know what to do with this." "My Recurring Dream"
came out very fast --.90% came out in a day. I love when that
happens -- it just feels right when it happens. The courage disappears
after you start thinking [laughs].
JP: On "My Recurring Dream" you
sing about the rules of karma. Tell me more about your philosophies.
KW: I'm not philosophical [laughs]. When I got on airplanes,
as soon as I saw the babies and the priest, I'd say, "Okay
I'm alright." I'm not so sure about priests anymore [laughs].
I always thought people carried a certain karmic weight with
them. But I sure don't want to pay for someone else's deeds.
JP: What were your expectations for your record,
"Uninvited Guest"?
KW: To make a name for myself as a solo artist. To get people
familiar with my name. All I really want is for the clubs where
I play to have an open mind and then I can prove myself. I don't
want people cutting me any extra slack. This isn't about anything
I've done in the past. It's brand new. Did I answer your question?
My shrink says I talk all around the issues [grins and smiles].
JP: Whose praise is most meaningful?
KW: People who will be direct and say, "Kenny, that's not
your best work." My manager, songwriter friends. There are
a few people who I know will tell me one way or another. They
won't say black when it's white. But it [criticism] stings.
I grew up with blanket praise so I've become very mistrustful
about praise to a fault. It came too easy as a kid. I don't
look to be criticized either [laughs].
JP: Which record producers do you most admire?
KW: Daniel Lanois - when he's not too Lanois-ish. You shouldn't
be able to hear the production on first listen. I like to listen
and hear something new or surprising after 10 listens. I thought
"Time Out of Mind" was a great record.
JP: What do you fear?
KW: Failure, rejection, success. Success -- because it means
having to repeat it. I remember Seinfeld did a bit about how
ludicrous it is [to fear success]. It definitely beats failure.
I always question if I have it in me to do it time after time.
JP: What would people who really know you
say about you?
KW: That I'm kind, gentle, generous. People feel comfortable
talking to me. I'm a good listener. People often tell me things
they haven't told anyone else. I think I don't allow myself to
judge because I'm so judgmental of myself. I'm trying to find
the good in everybody because I'm trying to find the good in me.
I think people trust me. I'm trustworthy by and large. I have
a very calm exterior but I'm percolating on the inside.
JP: Can you describe your strangest gig?
KW: Someone asked me, "Do you play 'Blue Suede Shoes'?"
I said we play mostly originals, but then he put a gun to my
head and asked again. I said, "Yeah, I think I know that
one. We can play that."
JP: What was your family like growing up?
KW: They were loving and supportive. I was terrible kid -- I
was a brat. I threw a lot of inner tantrums.
JP: Inner tantrums?
KW: I guess they weren't always inner [laughs]. I was very stubborn
-- I still am. I acted out a lot. My mother always said I couldn't
be punished. I never let them win. My parents are still married,
going on 60 years.
JP: Do you have any pre-show rituals?
KW: No. I prefer to race in without time to really think about
it. I perform better that way.
JP: Do you want to be wildly successful?
What would that look like?
KW: No. You can't do the kind of music I do and be wildly successful.
I guess I was wildly successful doing commercials. I got respect
from my peers that did a lot for me -- gave me confidence. If
I could headline some of these clubs and get more of these non-commercial
radio stations to play the record, that would be wildly successful.
If I could make records without losing money. To keep writing
and keep connecting with audiences.